Reading these suicide pages you will find people seeking help and people offering their help. Some witness about suicide from real life experience, others who play along with me would pretend it's a children's game. Some make sick and cruel jokes about it, and angry people blame me for even mentioning the subject. You might also want to read my favourite answers. If you want your answer to be included here, fill in the form.

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What is the best way to kill yourself when you're under 13?

Quelle est la meilleure forme de suicide pour les moins de 13 ans?
26 Dec 2006 Farrock Junquera Life is damn great ! but of course it was not gonna be good all along the time..I used to takes like more than 20pills.. mixed with chemical and poisonus drugs.. that was 7 years ago..now I live my life well.. lucky I'm still alive until today.. I made out a good life.. met a good gf which's going to be my wife soon.. and met lotsa people and i even managed to love and try to understand that to do self injury and suicide are only for stupid people..I was being stupid for attempting suicide before.. well.. if u guys still wanna go for suicide.. go ahead.. i dont care.. its yer fuckin life..and i understand that u guys are stupid and u cant think bout others.. ;)i think the best way is to ask someone to kill you..eg: serial killer is much more better..other u could die and still can satisfied the feeling of the murderer..
23 Dec 2006 Genna My name is Genna.
I was diagnosed with Manic Depression last year.
I was the unlucky one in our family.
My grandfather had it, but, alas, it HAD to skip a generation& get to me.
Fucking prick,,


I have tried suicide many times.
I must say that this site has many great idea but many of them are faulty.
No offence.
You are all so creative.

I do believe that I have left previous posts on this site.
I am still alive.
Stupid.

My next attempt will be a gun shot to the temple BUT.. I had this to consider.

My friends mum works in a hospital& the part where she works is filled with people who have tried to kill themselves.
Many of them have tried my newest method but all who are there have survived (obviously).
Those who do survive have to endure the following:
a) Surviving.
b) Surviving with no physical or mental ability at all.
c) Surviving without a face.

Now. My plan is that, if I do not infact die instantly, to shoot myslelf again.
BUT, what if I have not enough brain capasity left to lift the gun once again& pull the trigger?



I do not care really.
But just a word of warning to all whom wish to go this way.
21 Dec 2006 NOT TELLING HERE! I hopefully will be getting better soon, i have see my doctor from the 5th of december, the 22nd of december i have to see some mental health workers, so hopefully things will pick up for me an my life will get better soon I am not looking forward to going to this hosptial treatment talking thing but hopefully they will be able to make me better soon, SO i can see some people who will be able to help me in the right direction.
so hopefully i will pull out of this suicide issue soon of mine an feel better than i am now!
Try to get some help will you peeps!
see ya doctor like i did, at first i was scared but now i am glad i went. Because hopefully i will get alot better soon,
Write down all your problems an issues an take them to your doctor to get help.
18 Dec 2006 zt92 I know what i am talking about, my sister is 16 and was sometimes suicidal. my mom and i always tried to help her to realize all of the things and reasons she had to live for, and she did it all over a stupid guy. I prayed to god for help and recieved the strength and determination i needed to be calm whenever she started having thoughts. One night we had to call police because she started hyperventilating on the highway. She was handcuffed for being suicidal and taken to the hospital. I am just saying that killing yourself is NOT THE ANSWER. Instead focus on the things you have that others don't such as friends or special items. If you have abusive parents or family members, try to get yourself to a counselor to secretly talk about adoption. There are a number of ways you can help yourself to better your own life. It is definately not worth killing yourself over. I do not know who invented this "suicide kit" but it is not funny,helpful,or humorous, it is sick and disgusting. DO NOT KILL YOURSELF. That is all that i am saying because you should never go against the will of god, when it is his will for you to live.
18 Dec 2006 D.Q.Van Stop talking about suicide already. Why asking how to kill yourself ? ( don't make me laugh) . Under 13 ? What's the difference if you're 13, 26, 39 or older and you ended up killing yourself ? In the end, you're just one of those pieces of shit pretending that you're the unluckiest one, that there's no other fucking pains greater than yours. What are we ? Nothing but animals that making this world worst than it was. Who cares if you die ? There're countless people die every fucking day . Did you ask them whether they wanted to or not ? Did they really have a choice to choose ? You want to die ? Alright, go ahead and show me how stupid you are . I don't care how you're going to die ( sink yourself ? shoot yourself ? Or take some fucking pills ? ... you'll be dead, or else you'll be the poorest one when you found yourself alive ). It's your choice ! Listen to me : there's no GOD ( sorry to those who believe in him )! If there is god, why and how could he let people do such a thing ? If you can't help yourself ,there's no one elese could ! If you want to suicide, no one can stop you ! I was a coward. I was choosing the path that you're thinking of. Yet I'm still alive. Because I'm not a coward! I didn't choose to be born but I chose to face this fucking world ! It's a cruel world but I'll prove that I'm crueler than it by changing it, laugh at it and make it feel every fucking pain that it gave me. Since I've experienced how it was. I can tell you it's not a very good feeling. I stopped trying, and I didn't tell anyone about it. I feel ashamed, of being a coward. Here's my advice : do the right thing ! Just like I did...
I'm 17 now, almost 18. Experienced enough to tell someone at my age that he's a kid. I'm trying to change my fate . Somehow I did. Now I'm done with playing childish games.
To say something in English sure hard, since French is my mother tongue. Good luck to all of you! I'm sure you'll find your right path.
17 Dec 2006 Vivi Don't. There have been too many suicides/attempts in my life.
My best friend's friend committed suicide in a horribly graphic way that he won't tell me, he attempted it a week later by stabbing his thigh with a chef's knife, and his ex-girlfriend sliced her wrists, ending up never being able to use her left hand again. They were all under 13, and the first two were in 5th grade. If it doesn't work, you're scarred for life, if not physically, then emotionally. Suicide is not a joke. It's not fun. It's not something you need to have tips on how to do.
17 Dec 2006 Alli- Sumone who cares...a lot Okay. I went through the same thing. I wanted to kill myself. Then, that night when I was cutting myself, I was thinking why I wanted to do this. The reason is is because my parents were divorced, my dad drank and smoked, and now I've added a new thing, my step mom is a real bitch.

I've came to a conclusion though. (i know you guys are gonna send me nasty emails about what I say is'nt gonna work). My teacher read the class a book and it was called "The Richest Man in Town". In the book (it was a biography) the author told us about Marty(the main character a.k.a. the richest man in town) had important lessons in the Book
1. Relationships are nost important
2. Only YOU can make YOU happy (my most favorite lesson)
3. Give a little more
Relationships are most important: Dont kill yourself if you truly TRULY love somone. PLUS if you kill yourself, your most dearest family members are going to miss you SO much (even if you dont think so)

Only YOU can make YOU happay: Thats right, you, yourself and you. You are truly the only person that can make you happy. I know this message wont make an impact about how you feel about killing yourself, but I do hope it makes an indention. This is how I got out of thinking about commiting suicide, I thought about why i wanted to do it, and who would miss me. Now I'm a lot more happy and more grateful for not commiting it.

Give a little more: I'm not sure how thats going to help you, but thats what I'm doing right now. If you decide you are'nt going to commit suicide, do a little more and wright about why you shouldn't

And another reason is: My uncle killed him self and I never got to meet him. Plus no one knows why he did it.
17 Dec 2006 Stephanie Kids...This is hard for me to talk about but I am 24 and I wish I was dead everyday. I ache inside myself. My once loving husband has just helped to literally egg my cronic depression on. I am not pretty, thin, and have no true friends. I suck at being a mom and wife.My dad went to prison when I was six for four counts of child molestation,and My mom left me for her child molesting husband when I was 14. I spent my teens in and out of mental wards. Because of that I now have a social anxiety disorder and absolutely no interpersonal skills. Oh, and to top it all off, i am so poor I can't afford a single gift or christmas tree for my babies. My husband is a drunk who vomits all over our bed and asks for "favors" even though he knows I was raped several times and molested my entire childhood. I was a heroin addict for 4 years and it gave me a cyst in my brain, and I have cervical cancer. Yeah, everyday I want to die. But as much as we can think it and want it we cant have it. GOD never gives us more than we can handle. This pain will only make us stronger. I have made it through 24 years of pain and terror. Things will get better if you let them. I was always bullied, I have a shitty life. But hey, I am still here and how will you know if it ever does get better if you off yourself? Give GOD a chance and I promise you won't regret it. Trust in him and it will all be okay. I honistly do promise. And one thing i've learned though my life, never make a promise you cant keep. And I don't, never will. I promise it will get better if you let it.
14 Dec 2006 Jinnks Suicide is never the answer. Alot of peopke think about it. And I have alot of times. But I still think of it alot. Over the years I have lived with an abusive father. He was abusive both verbaly and physically. I'll never forget the day that he had come home from the bar and grabbed my hair and dragged me down the steps into the yard. I can still feel my hair one by one poping out of my head. And my head hitting the wooden steps. And my back being scratched. And then his fist breaking my nose. I can still remember every day he would call me a fatass spoiled ugly bitch. and then the dy came when he basically kicked me out of his house because of the fact thta I am bisexual. The next day I was at my moms house on the computer and 3 of my friends had died. Dani, James, and Dustin. well maybe not.. the very next day. maybe in that one week. But it was still to much. I was so confused and so depressed. I had too much to live for. But then again I still had too much wrong. Too much to die for. So I still decided to live. and now things are getting better there is still alot of bumps and wrecks on this small road of mine. But I still have someone there to help me out. My one true love. And yes I know most of you have a bumpier road than mine. But If you actually look out there you will notice people who do love you. Each and every one of you have someone who loves you. Take my word for it.
07 Dec 2006 reese I don't think anyone chooses to think about suicide. suicide crosses a person's mind when to them there is absolutely no sign of hope or a solution. a suicidal person doesn't think of suicide as a quick solution but rather as the ONLY solution. It is because of how our mind thinks that we get depressed, sad or even happy. situations don't determine how we feel. it's how our mind interprets what happens to us that makes us "feel." some people see problems as just an obstacle, while others see it as a hundred foot wall. the hardest thing for a suicidal person is the thought that nobody out there understands what they are going through. because of this, they feel alone. and it makes their problem bigger. it doesn't help them at all when others say, "oh, suicide is a selfish act" or "its just a way to point fingers at peoople who you think have fucked up your life." when a person thinks about ending their life, they are saying that they are tired, and exhausted of living. the only way to stop a machine is to turn it off. our brain is a machine ; a machine that runs non stop until we die. they key word is DIE. our brain shuts off only in DEATH. drugs and alcohol help but not for long. so what's the best way to get out of hopeless situations? DEATH! think about it. no more sadness, no more LONELINESS. no more guilt. and really, who cares what people think when you kill yourself. your'e not there to hear about it! maybe it is selfish, but hey! the point is that you are not hurting anymore!!!

so why didn't i kill myself few years back? because of one thing: LOVE. what brought me hope was the thought that someone out there was ready to love me and be there for me. I may have met them already or i had yet to meet them. but it excites me to think that someone out there was ready to take me out of loneliness. i didn't want to leave the world not knowing who this person was. the loving hug of a soul mate is enough to erase a peron's problems away. love doesn't necessarily say it understands. it just says that when life hits you, YOUR ARE NOT ALONE.

We all have the same issues here. Lost love, Betrayal by a trusted person, neglect and all that fuckin stuff. but now i refuse to hurt myself because of someone elses fuckin stupidity. instead of hurting myself i'll get them back by becoming better than them. i've got nothing to lose....i already have nothing!
06 Dec 2006 Ashley Ok. So believe me, I've considered it all. My best friend, confidant and love just passed away. It's been ONE month. NEVER before have I had these kind of thoughts, but now....I do. I miss him. He was the love of my life and now I am left with only memories. It sucks and it hurts. But listen to me. Times will get hard. You will feel like giving up, cause it seems so easy. But don't be so selfish. No matter what you think, there is SOMEONE out there that cares. Someone that it will effect, I promise you. Trust me, I wanna give up everyday, but I can't be so selfish...my death will only hurt many other people. Life is hard and unfair, no one said it would be easy. I promise, with time, the hurt you are feeling will slowly go away and you will feel more content. It is hard for me to get up every single day without him, but I do it...because I know he'd want me to. Be strong, it will all work out. No innocent lives are with it. You are stronger than that, and you have people standing behind you. talk to me...I will be here, promise.
06 Dec 2006 Natasha im i5 now, but when i was 14 i was having the shittiest life in the world. I had depression and all i would do when i got home was hit my head against my closet harder and harder and think of how i could get rid of it. The only thing i could think of was suicide. I ended up in hospital for one night, might not sound much but it changed me, the next week i accidently cut myself with a knife on my thumb. I saw the cut and burst into tears. I couldnt do it. I was scared of my own thoughts and actions.
What appnend was my parents set up an appointment with some counselor and it helped me a lot.

If my parents hadnt helped me through that time, i never want to think what to think would of happenend.

Im now 15, so much better, the best friends ever, the best parents ever and all of this was because my parents stuck with me til the end.

Some advice. The only thing i can say is dont do it. You may want to, but why take your life when all ur gunna do is cause more pain?
Thats all i got.
Just promise me you will stick with your friend, parent or whoever is thinking of suicide and if its you consider what it will do to others and you have to stick it out. Its painful i know, you will know what i mean though, thats my promise to you guys.
02 Dec 2006 nathan dudes to all who read this stop and think what yoy are about to do and dont say you dont know how it feels cause im fourteen and now have seventeen scars on my arm !how do you think they will feel i had a girlfreind a life and freinds and i was on holidays and now im scarred for life ! i was lucky i was found in time others werent dont make the same mistake i did 1please
01 Dec 2006 Juliet i am 13 right now. and i`ve sat here on the computer for about 5 hours reading alot of these stories, it made me feel emotional and made me cry as well. i finally felt like im not the only one in this world that is going through all this bullshit and so on . before i even checked out this website. i had a HUGE arguement with my friend . she said that i needed to chill. take time to think. and stop being helluh stupid. at that point i got pissed and cussed her the fuck out . my depression was taking over. by the time i found this site. i`ve re-thinked everything over [ commiting suicidde ] and all that shit. and i felt so horrible about all these stories and that you should live your life. dont plan your dream, live it. and dont let your depression take over. cause its just all bullshit your gonna go through in the afterlife . you might not know whats gonna happen on in the future. so just live it to the fullest and be happy with it what life gave you . should already know that life always come with consequences. but that consequence bounces back and turns everythinig around. so just believe in what you`ve got . i am currently going through alot right now . the funny type the one that is always alone and lunch time and have no friends to talk to. having to see every girl/boy with their friends, make me tink about how lonely i am. i come home every day from school . go straight to the bathroom aand think what is it about me that makes me have a shitty as life. i think of my self as ugly ever since 1 st grade. since i was called ugly since the 1st grade ! so i just think.. mayb this is just a silly game played by god. and why he would be doing this . but i`ve gone through all this crap. i found friends. bestfriends.truse friends. and even fake friends. just know what you dont need boyfriends to complete chur life. player boys treat girls like barbie dolls. strip them,fuck them, and then throw them away . so dont ever let a guy take controll over you .
i have so much to say but i will write more another time.
just be happy . i still going through difficulties and I even need help.
but im giving all this a good thinking.
mayb we can help eachother out.
im am available 24/7.
just e-mail me at dumbbdorkjuji@yahoo.com
im nice and the funny type.
01 Dec 2006 ROBIN I'VE JUST TURNED 17, HAVING THOUGHT OF TAKEN MY LIFE A GOOD FEW TIMES DURING THE FIRST 15 YEARS OF MY LIFE
I COULD GIVE YOU A SOB STORY OF MY LIFE AND WHY I WANTED TO END IT BUT ITS NOT IMPORTANT
SO YOU WANT TO KNOW THE BEST WAY TO KILL YOURSELF ? IF THINKING OF ENDING YOUR LIFE , MY FRIEND YOU'RE DEAD ALREADY.
MY BEST FRIEND WAS A STRONG BELIEVER IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND HIS CONSTANT CHATS OF A BETTER LIFE , OF MY LIFE HAVING PURPOSE NEVER REALLY MADE SENSE, UNTIL I HELD HIS BLOODIED BODY IN MY HANDS. HE HAD BEEN A VICTIM OF A RANDOM NEIGHBOURHOOD SHOOTING .
THAT WAS IT FOR ME - THAT DAY I WAS DETERMINED TO END MY LIFE
BUT SOMETHING URGED ME TO WAIT - TO GO HIS FUNERAL - I THEN LEARN'T OF HIS ABUSIVE DAD ,OF HOW HIS MUM HAD DIED OF CANCER , OF HOW HE WORKED 3 JOBS TO SUPPORT HIMSELF AND HIS 2 YOUNGER SISTERS AND THE CONSTANT THREATS AND ASSUALTS HE FACED
I DID NOT KNOW MY BEST FRIEND AT ALL

ITS FUNNY BUT HIS DEATH TAUGHT ME TO LIVE
I'M NOT AFRAID OF DEATH - ITS THE LIVING THAT'S THE HARD PART
BUT I WILL NOT BE A COWARD, I WILL WAKE UP EACH DAY . I WILL RUN THIS RACE
29 Nov 2006 Rianna I just read all of the postings up on this site. Part of me wants to say that i'm being selfish for wanting to even think about commiting suicide. Although it may not seem like it at times, i know there are people who love me. Especially my mother and father. They are probably the only two people that have made me reconsider any attempts of taking my life. Well, i have tried overdosing on pills, but as we all know that one doesn't do much. I tried to drink myself to death one point last year, and all i got was alcohol poisoning. it kinda fucking annoys me when people post up on this site A"dont kill ur self im here for you" because all of us are strangers on this damn thing. The only person i would want to be there for me would be someone that meant something to me. not seeking help and counseling through a god damn box over the internet. Things do get better, over time, time heals everything ive found. But at some points i just want to give up. i feel like sometimnes i have nothing to lvie for. i have no goals, and really no accomplishments. if my life seems as awful as it does now, i don't even wnat to know what it will be like in 10 years. cuase chances are, things ar eonly going to get worse. i just.....want something from this life. if im gunna live, i want to live for something. and right now it seems as though i have nothing. i've lost to many friends, simply from jsut withdrawing from them and other reasons. ive finally worked my way to graduation, in january, but at this point...i don't even want to. i've been doing it for my parents. not me. fuck college, it's not for me. i jsut want someone to love me for me and not have so mnany fucking haters in this world. and wish people would stop fucking judging all the time.
27 Nov 2006 S I N I attempted suicide once. I tried to take a lot of ibuprofen. I didn't die, but I did realize that I will always fail at suicide.
Feeling suicidal is a feeling of emptiness, misery and pain. It is a feeling of not having a future, a wish to destroy oneself, a feeling of endless hurt. Suicide is the end of a walking depression.
I felt suicidal once. Then I felt it all the time.
24 Nov 2006 susan D. I,ve read alot of messages on this site, and they are so touching and profound. I just finished reading one about Eric, and I completely, understand. You have to try and get a moment of fun, here and there, when you can. It,s not to inspiring, but that is life. I,ve been suicidal off and on, nearly my whole life. My mother was from a third world country, when she married my dad, whom was also a foreginer, and they divorced when I was only five. There began the violent rages of my mother, towards my siblings, and me. She constantly yelled, and I do mean yelled, at us, hit us etc. etc. We were poor,had no car.lived in a trailer, were on welfare. I was never allowed to spend the night, or go over to my friends houses, hardly, or go to school dances, etc. I grew up shy , but also a bully. They can both be in one person. I use to bully my poor "sweet" brother mercifully, maybe because I felt so helpless, I had to make others feel the same.Because all this negativity I feel, was the reason he turned out "gay. He recently died of a massive heart attack, brought on by years of drinking himself to death. My sister is a prostitute drug addict, and now as an adult my life turned out a "little" better, in some aspects than theirs, but only by appearances, sake. I started prostituting when I was seventeen, and my stepmother didn,t even care enough, to stop me. In fact she encouraged me, then bad mouthed me to everyone. I wanted someone to love me,and say no, please don,t, but they never did. I would have stopped, if someone had cared enough, to say something to me. Even though I,ve met some of the most famous men, in the world doing that, really, you would never no it from who I am. I,m pretty, but makes no difference. My mother is getting old, and I am scared to death, when she will die. I,ll be all alone. I learned to understand, my mom as I got older. She,s my friend now, but what am I going to do when she dies. When I was a child, I was teasinbg a girl, that had a Caul, on her face,( that,s a mark that appears, on people that are born with psychic ability,) and anyways, after she had enough of me, she finally blurted out, that I was Going to kill myself. It seemed so bizarre, because at that age I had not ever thought or even knew what suicide was. I was about ten. I don,t want to think she,s right, but she just might be. I have know friends that live near me, to do things with, no "sweetie", I did though. I pray for all you people on this site, and don,t do it. You as well, as your family with suffer, immensely if you do. I,ve learned about that by studying metapsychics. Life is a hell on earth, and when you die naturally, you go home. If you kill yourself,from what i,ve read you won,t be reunite with your loved one,s. Hey! just that line that I wrote, made me wise up, at least for a moment. I want to see my "wonderful", brother again. We also, became friends,as I grew older. Love you all. Stay strong..... and have a bit of fun Love sue
24 Nov 2006 Chris J. Hillier When I was 13, alot of people(Doctors, parents, friends, etc)... believed that I had some sort of mental problem. And "beating everyone to the end" seemed to be one of the only fantasies on my mind... In 7th grade, I've had 3 different experiences that have ultimately changed my life forever..

I've drowned in my own 5 ft. deep pool and lived to tell everyone how its like to be dead for a few minutes.

The second attempt came from a number of pills...and alcohol, and even a plastic bag over my head... Unfortunetely, the door to my room wasn't locked, and if my Dad hadn't ironically got off early from work, I wouldnt be writing this..

And of course, the 3rd attempt came from a pistol... Except this experience was probably the scariest few moments of my life... It of course being an extremely unsuccesful attempt, left me with a bullet in the calf of my left leg...

I'm almost 19 years old now, and to this day, contemplating suicide is breakfast...lunch...and dinner... For my mind... My future, is the most depressing thought I could possibly imagine... Because the only thing I can see, is the same pain I have felt since that time when I was young.

I am not like others... but like many people who have tried to "free themselves".. I too am trying to seek an understanding to all of this shit, and for once, someone who can understand my own self...

My answer lies not with God, because I do not seek salvation, only to be rejected into the rest of all reality... Positive and negative aspects of ANYTHING, will compete with eachother... no matter what... and it's hard for me to accept something like that.

The story of my life might as well be a fuckin book up to this point. But all I have nowadays to defend myself from...myself... is to try and appreciate this one thing(life), to cherish and love it... To do what I love, to lift myself from the grave I've tripped and fell into countless times.

But the scar reminds us.

All I can say... is that if you attempt to free your soul... make sure it makes it all way out of your body, Because there is a long unpredictable life ahead of you.
21 Nov 2006 Erik Hello again. This is Erik. A couple of people commented on my October post and someone mentioned that I didn't provide an e-mail address. Well I set up a new e-mail address that you can use to contact me if you want. The user is "erik_the_loser" and the domain is "mindspring.com" (put 'em together with an "@" in the middle and you'll have an e-mail address).

Also one person brought up the subject of what your suicide would do to others and how their pain wouldn't compare to the pain you are going through yourself. Well, you are probably right, but I'm not sure that changes anything. Maybe someday our families and friends will realize that and learn to just let us go (did you ever see or read "The Martian Chronicles"?). But I doubt it. It's instinctual and not really their fault that they don't want to give us up. I once read an interesting obituary in the newspaper though. A man had committed suicide at the age of about 40. The man's father didn't call it a tragedy or anthing. He said that the poor guy just never was right for this world. Maybe it takes that many years for a parent to finally realize it.

What I really wish is that people would simply stop making babies. Maybe if everyone understood how we really feel, they would no longer want to make babies, and then all this would finally stop.

Look at the poor third-world countries. You see documentaries and commercials about them on late night TV. Millions of babies are starving. They do nothing but cry and starve in sickness all day and yet the people just keep making more babies. Just look at that for a while and use your brain. Do you really think humanity is headed somewhere good? How much sense does it take to figure out that adding babies is not going to turn things around? And why don't humans even have that much sense? (Hmm. Let's see . . . We have a million starving babies in our city and, hmm . . . no food. What should we do? Hmm . . . I dunno. Fuck it!) Why don't we all just stop making babies and try to feed the ones who are already here and starving. Then maybe we could at least go out on a high note.

I don't have anthing positive to say as usual. Well there is one thing I guess. The guy who answered the question of how to kill yourself with "Enroll at UC Berkeley and major in mathematics" -- he made me laugh out loud.

Anyway, if all you need is someone to listen to your story then you can send me an e-mail. But don't expect me to give you a reply with a bunch of "Oh things will get better and God has a purpose for your life" crap. I have no idea whether things will get better. But I'll read it and I won't judge you. Heh, I'm nobody to judge anybody.

Erik

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